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And I am your host, Robbie the Wagner. With me, as always, is Adam Thomas Argyle, the nerd. Howdy, y'all. With a drawl. All right. All right. I am excited for this whiskey tonight. This actually is something I wanted to do. I don't know if we talked about this because this is a really I don't know what they did. It sounds like they started with bourbon. Um, but I was saying you start with one that isn't aged at all, like, like a white whiskey. Right. And then you give people this thing that's inside. Like there's a, I don't know if you can see. A spire. This one's a, uh, sliced. You can see it floating in there.
Yeah. So it's like a piece of wood with like a spiral cut, like so you can get more of the wood grain and stuff. But the thought was if you gave people one that wasn't aged at all and you gave them maybe even two of those and you put them in, then you, it's up to you how much wood you want. You maybe let it age for a month, try it, let it age for a couple more. Like I think that's a cool concept. So this is a little different because it's just been in here for who knows how long, like how long has it been on the shelf like that? I don't know. But, um, It is a bourbon with Amberana spiral. And I believe that's the one that's very cinnamony.
I forget. Yes. We'll see. It is the cinnamony one. Ciminimony. And it's Brazilian wood. Ooh. Ooh. So it's a hundred proof. It's a high rye bourbon from an undisclosed distillery. You shall not know. 36% rye, 4% malta barley. Wow. And the spiral, if anyone cares, is five inches long, which is a great size, in my opinion. I'm jealous of that size. All right. Let's give it a try. Let's do it. So yeah, this site has a, you can build your own. You can, you can get a base, you choose the base, a rye or a bourbon, and then you choose the spire and all the spires have different, I think they dip them or they soak them in something before they even put them in.
So you can get a cinnamon strawberry if you want, and you can kind of combine and pick vanilla. I think they'll even douse the spire before they put it in. It's pretty cool so but it's like 100 bucks if you custom build a bottle i was like that'd be a good gift and then i was thinking but taking it further oh that smells that's some big red right there holy cow big red for sure you know what this is it's like wassail oh this is christmas time in my mouth man Oh my God. Yeah, it is. It's not bad though. This actually is exactly because I put so much whiskey in my mulled cider. This just tastes just like it, like my normal cup of mulled cider.
Whoa. This is so appellate. This is like a bear claw that's got like vanilla sprinkles on it and maybe a little bit of coconut. There's definitely coconut in there. Okay. Yeah, I don't know. Just tastes like mulled cider to me. But that has a lot of stuff in it. Mulling spices have a lot of random flavors. So I guess this spire is really pulling a lot of weight here because otherwise it would be very rye centric. Even though it's a bourbon, it's a spicy, spicier bourbon. But hmm. I'm not sad. I don't know how many of these I could have. I think these are, uh, you know, great for maybe the first one of the night or something.
I don't know. Yeah. I probably wouldn't have six of these. Um, yeah, no. Yeah. But yeah, so, um, we have a really technical rating system, zero to eight tentacles, zero being the worst, eight being the best. Uh, what do you think, Adam? I am thinking maybe a, uh, 6.25 for now, maybe a 6.1. I got to see how it goes over time. Cause I've had ones like this before and I'm like the first one, I'm like, that's really good. And then by the second one, I'm like, I like it less over time. It's really thick on like the adventure it goes through though. Like it's really spicy and cinnamon at first and then it trails hard into coconut and vanilla.
Um, so it's very sweet. Um, yeah, I'll, I'll say a 6.1. Can we do point once I can do whatever I want. I said, whatever you want. All right. Yeah. It's hard for me. Um, if we were just saying this is a bourbon, then this is way better than most bourbon. Um, um, If we're saying it's a thing that's been aged in various barrels and finished differently and played with and whatever, then it's not in my top 10. But that being said, it's pretty good. I'd like to try more of their custom ones. I don't know if we even said, did I say the name of the, if I didn't, it's Oak and Eden. Oak and Eden, yeah.
Yeah. All right. So I'm going to give it actually a 7.1, I think. I'm pretty pleased with it. Hell yeah. Yeah. I think I shared the custom builder thing. I did in our Discord. Here, I have the URL nice and handy for building your own. Everybody here, you want to go build your own Oak and Eden? Yeah, you pick a bourbon, a four-grain bourbon, a rye, or a weeded bourbon base. And then you just keep building your flavor. You pick a spire and an infusion. Do they have an MCP, though, so that I can just build random things with an AIH? Oh, dude, that's our business. How'd you get famous? We made the first whiskey-enabled agentic experience.
That is kind of like the new web 2.0, isn't it? Where you've got all these people that are like, I'm the same thing people have always done, but using new technology. Yep. There's probably some, something there that somebody will do and we'll go, damn it. We should have done that. But what can you do? And it's going to take more than just a holler on a podcast. You're going to have to build out a whole business. And by then it gets a lot uglier than, I don't know, the romantic mindset we have right now. Anyway. Anyway. Yeah. Speaking of building a business, I'm working on that kind of. My first app is almost done.
It is if people want to try it out. I think I mentioned it last episode, but it's basically supposed to help you if you have ADHD or you like frequently have the problem where you walk into a room and you have no idea why you went in there. So it just, it's not like a reminders thing. It's like one task. So you can have multiple parts to the task. So you could be like, I wanna go get a hammer, a screwdriver, and a soda, and you don't wanna forget one of those. So you tell it those three things, and then it like randomly nudges you and tells you to like, hey, did you get all these? and you can also link it up with your spouse and they can put it on there for you because frequently Caitlin will be like, hey, go get me these two things and I come back upstairs with none of the things and then she'll be like, so she can just tell her app, put this in his app, tell him to bring me these two things and then I don't even have to say it myself.
Tell my dummy hubby exactly what I need. Yeah, tell him to get my water bottle. He always forgets. He goes down, he comes back five minutes later, empty-handed. Yep. Yep. Yep. But if you want to try it out, I forget the vanity URL. It's something like, why, why am I in here.com or something like that? Um, I don't know if that's the, but anyway, the normal URL is doorway.help. If you want to check it out and you can join the beta there. Why did I walk in here sharing it to the chat for you? Oh wait, I shared doorway.help, but it looks like there is a, why did I walk in here.com? Yep. It's awesome.
My kid has been doing it. Hopefully that'll help some people. They're 10. They just keep walking in and they're like literally walking to the office. Dad. Yeah. What's up, dude? Oh, I don't know. Okay. See you later. I got stuff to do, man. I'll come back when you remember. man, it's gotten so much worse. Like, I don't know if it's just the world we live in. And, you know, when I was younger and we didn't have as much internet and like supercomputers in our pockets that I was better at that. But like, I can't, I can't focus on anything anymore. Yeah. I mean, I feel like people were doing it before internet and phones, but it could be worse if you go downstairs and then you're like, oh, I think I'll just play a quick little video game for a second.
And then you play the video game. Then you play it while you walk up the stairs or something like that. Yeah. You're in the zone, man. You're, you're in another place. You're not downstairs. Yeah. But yeah, so I've been doing that with the Claw desktop app still. And it's doing great because I still have the Claw open source free stuff. Dang. Taking advantage of free Fable and doing that. That's awesome. I'm still not on that bigger plan. I'm on the, the Hyundai. That's why I hit the limit today. I put, yeah. Did you see it? I put my, uh, open claw into a loop. It was like, here, use fable to orchestrate these sub agents to just grind out this thing I need.
And a few minutes later, you've hit your limit. I was like, Oh man, dang it. Oh, classic. But yeah, I don't know what's going to happen. I think it ends in September. Do I want to pay $200 a month to keep using the thing I'm used to? That's probably why they give it to you for free. So hopefully you'll do that. Oh, yeah. Just the percentage of people that stay on is worth the freebie thing that they did. I mean, that's like what's going on with tokens right now in general is it's very much. Well, I don't know. It could get cheaper. We don't know. But yeah, we're all I'm thoroughly addicted. I got an amazing amount of work done today just watching it work.
And it was like, oh, yeah, make sure not to forget this. And I won't forget that either. And I'm like, I totally would have forgot that. And here it is just doing it over and over again. And it is superior to me. Yeah. Yeah. I want to ask you about this phenomenon that I think I've noticed. So the way I would equate it is like, you know, if you bring a kid to the orthodontist, it doesn't matter what kind of teeth they have. They're going to go, oh, they need braces. Like they're selling you braces, right? Yeah, mechanic also. Oh, you got eight issues here. I know I just wanted an oil change. You got eight issues.
So, yeah. Yeah. And so, you know, I'm building this whole app. It's all Swift. I don't know Swift. So I'm like, I occasionally look at a couple lines of code, but mostly just dark factoring it. Um, yeah. But then, you know, every so often, you know, it's it's so full of itself. It's like, you know, here's this app. It's got all these features. It's dope. I'm good. Like and then you're like, hey, do an adversarial review and find like bugs and edge cases and whatever. And it always finds at least always find stuff. Yeah. Like, will there ever be a point when it doesn't? Or is it built to do that?
Like stupid little bugs that don't actually matter just so that it can keep burning tokens. Like I'm curious if there's ever a point where it goes. I looked at all of it. I've looked at all of it a whole bunch of times now and it's pretty good. Like no problems. Yes. That is a great question. I've never had an adversarial review come back without finding something. But if you've got a butthole friend that can always find something wrong, they can just always find something wrong with something. It's kind of like what you asked them to do. Hey, come be an adversarial reviewer. And then it's like, I don't like these things.
But it's like, why didn't you do that in the first place? Yeah. That's why we're doing these. Yeah. Have you heard the gauntlet loop? Maybe we talked about it last time or two times ago. I'm not sure. We might have, but I don't remember. Tell me again. The gauntlet loop is where you've got an orchestrator that spins up a, a worker. This got famous a couple of weeks ago, making games. People were like, how'd you make that game so good? And he's like, I set up a gauntlet loop. People were like, what's the gauntlet loop? You've got a, quality bar reviewer and then you have something building it. You can never...
The mantra is you never have the thing building it be also the reviewer. And you put these things in a loop where the reviewer has a quality bar that's very high. Or are you saying... They have to be different. It could be the same model. Sure. Because, you know, it's going to empty its brain, make sure it has a brand new set of context when it goes into being the reviewer. But it's like, so you spin it up. You're like, you're the reviewer. You hold the quality bar. It must be very high. We are looking for a game of this caliber, of this quality. Here's some things that we're looking for. uphold it to your utmost standards.
And so it goes and it does this hardcore review and then it hands that to the orchestrator. The orchestrator gives that to the builder. The builder goes and builds all those things, gives it to the reviewer. And that's the gauntlet loop. You basically they call it the gauntlet because it has to get through the gauntlet before it's actually done. It's not a fucking slip and slide like what we have right now. Wee! You know, you just fall down the pit of success. No, this is a series of beatings that it must go through and it's producing better results. That's why I did it today in the thing. I put it, that was a gauntlet review where I was like, I need you to figure out how to do this task, which we're teaching my punk ass, by the way, to be a producer.
I need you to figure this out and do it in a loop. I have a high quality bar for the output. So you need to go edit the audio, give it to the reviewer and loop again until this thing is good. And I put a limit on the loops just because I'm poor, but you know, Is it just using like a FFM peg or something to edit it or is it, what does it, for the video? Yeah. There's all sorts of tools it's been pulling in. Um, and it's kind of one of the best parts about training something to do a job is that it never forgets. And then I'm constantly writing to a Markdown file of all the requirements of what I expect over time.
Um, it's cool. So I'm, I'm learning a lot, like while I'm sitting here teaching it, but yeah, How do we get on this subject? Oh, it's gauntlet reviews. Anyway, yeah. Loops. Yeah, why do you have to put it in a loop? Why can't it be good the first time? I don't know. I kind of felt like that's what high level thinking, extra high level thinking was for a bit, was it just did its own self loopy loops. Well, it does. It's making more intelligent stuff. Like I gave it very little input for the app I'm building. And for the like, you know, first day or two MVP, yeah. it was pretty solid. It was missing some things we needed.
And as we started layering stuff on, it started shitting the bed a bit. But like it was I was like, hey, I want this app. I spent like 20 minutes typing up what I wanted. I was like, I want this app that does all this stuff. I need a landing page. It needs to be Astro. I need like, you know, and I want to use a GSAP for animations, like whatever, whatever, whatever. And it was like, cool. And it built it all. And I was like, okay, now use impeccable to like make it more dope. And it was like, cool. And like, It did it all really, really well to the point where I was like, wow, I can ship this thing in like a couple days.
And then, yeah, we started hitting a lot of edge cases because it's so it's built on CloudKit, which I don't know if you've done any Swift stuff. I haven't done it either, but I know about it now. It's basically like I didn't want anyone to have to log in. So you're like already logged in iCloud account is what it uses. and it has like cloud kit is like a database kind of doing air quotes for people that can't see me. It's not really a database. Like you can't query it. You can't, but it's like, it'll store stuff in there. So like when you start a task, we have a thing that like has it in there and like whatever, but I can't be like, Oh, I'd, I'd like to find one by this ID.
Like I can't do that programmatically. Um, So there's a lot of weird, like, since you can't programmatically do it, you kind of have to have a bunch of them and just manually check all of their info, see if they're the right one, see if it should be closed or not, stuff like that. And it's like, it's really janky. I don't know why I'm talking about this, though. I mean, this is this is our this is our life right now. I think I don't know if there's a point, though. Anyway, go ahead. No, I'm just sitting here nodding my head going, that's what it's like. You know, I can get a lot done really quick and then finishing things is hard.
That's the same thing. That's like, I hear, I'm going to pivot us into a comment that I heard that was really good, which is engineers aren't being replaced, but coding is. Oh, for sure. And what I liked about that phrasing was the same things like photographers aren't gone just because the camera came out and it became in all of our pockets, you know, just like tools come out and they don't eliminate the profession as much as they sort of initially think they do. Yeah, I don't think we're done. I think we're still engineering. You still like I go to work and there's a lot of things I still need to do as an engineer at Shopify, even though AI is helping me code much faster.
It's not good at making the engineering decisions. That's still on me. That's still on design to go to figure out what to design and all that stuff. And so the bigger the bigger the thing you have, the harder it is just naturally. You just can't get around that. So yeah. Yeah. The only thing it's done, like it hasn't really replaced any of the real engineering process, but it's made everyone at higher up levels see like, oh, they don't have to type anymore. It should be a lot faster. But it's actually even though I can like shit out a ton of code really fast with AI, it's not actually faster at building stuff like it's.
like you need the time to review and make sure it's doing what you want or it's going to be brittle. Like if you're not thinking about the edge cases, you're not thinking about performance. You're not thinking about accessibility. All of the things that like an engineer knows matter in an app. It doesn't care about like it kind of vaguely knows about that stuff, but it doesn't care. It's just like building whatever. So yeah, there's a lot of things like we're, we've talked about this. I don't know how much I've said about the stuff I'm doing at work, very fast paced a lot of ai um and like the deadline is always arbitrarily like right now we're shipping it now and it's like wait why we haven't even started no we're shipping it now and it's like okay um and like that that is really burning everyone out because we're like trying to please management by doing that and shipping it now but like we can't actually ship it now there's so many
like variables to figure out we need to actually like if you want a real date is what I've been advocating for is like if you want an actual date then you can't skip the normal engineering process of like let's plan out the whole thing ticket it out figure out who's doing what tickets what needs to be done then you can get a rough you know date ish like at least some sort of informed decision instead of just like it's going to be out right now And so I really would stress that people should like if your companies are telling you like to skip all of that, push back on them, especially if you're senior or above.
Don't don't let us all fall into like we can't have good engineering anymore because everybody said it had to be fast. Yeah, I think everyone is feeling that. So that's a very, very good thing to call out. Like it's happening at Shopify also. We all want good quality. I had an issue recently where, so I've been reviewing PRs with AI, but it's like a custom handwritten thing I've done. So even though code review is built into a lot of tools where you can go get code review skills and blah, blah, blah. I feel like they don't code rabbit code rabbit dot AI. Yeah. Sponsor us again. That was great.
We liked those readings. We'll bill you. Yeah, we'll bill you. Um, and so, but I've been handwriting myself and people are like, how are you getting such good results in the code reviews? I'm like, it's just Opus and me stating the things that are important about what should be reviewed in this PR. You want to show up with some washed out generic code review phrase that's, skill, you're going to get washed out generic results. And I'm getting meaningful, a lot of results. And one of my favorite things I put in there is look for dead code. You know, look for code that's just unnecessary. And it's always got something to say.
It's like, hey, that variable's not used. Hey, that thing over here is just declared but never used, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, I love being the one that shows up to a PR and says, there's cruft in your slop. Here's five bullets And just give it to your LLM and they'll be fixed. You know, like no big deal. I thought it was like no big deal sending these kind of like PR reviews that have anywhere from like four to eight things of feedback where I'm like, if we're going to ship fast, let's still go through these loops. But someone came back and they were like, hey, my manager is asking me to ship faster.
You're in my way. You're the one stopping my PRs the most. Well, once you get a ton of slop in there, it's going to take everyone a lot longer and be a lot slower. So you might as well take the time up front. Dude. Yeah. I had a hard time empathizing where I was like, I mean, I empathize because I'm like, yes, we all need to move fast. So, Hey, let's find a compromise. I'm not just going to hit okay on your PR. So if that's what you're asking me, no, I'm not going to do it. I'm going to go through this code. I usually skim the code while the other, uh, AI is reviewing it. Right. And then I go and I synthesize the results before I paste it.
So I'm like, I'm not doing lazy reviews here. Uh, I'm trying to do decent, decent reviews. I'm not even going over the top. Um, but you know, like I, I went into a third round with this person and they were like, you, you can't do this to me or whatever. And I'm like, okay, I guess I'll do one or two to you, but I'm going to keep doing two or three to other people. So I was just like, ah, I get where you're coming from. You need to go faster, but I don't feel bad being the one that's hard to get past. I, I'm, I think I'm going to be proud of that over time. I love having that person. I can empathize with how they're feeling because, you know, there's always the person, you know, the guy you can ask for a review and he'll just not even look and approve it.
Yeah. And then there's the other person who's going to have like find, hey, you missed a comma that like the comma doesn't matter, but I'd prefer there's a comma there. Yeah. And, but the one who cares that much about the quality is the one who is going to find those edge cases. Who's like knows it inside and out and goes, oh yeah, like, cause I've worked here for a while. I know if you fuck with this piece, it's going to break. So like, don't do it this way, do it this other way. And that matters. So I, I love having that person. I hate them at the time when they block my PR, but I love in the long run having that kind of person.
same boat. Yeah, I can name them. I know who they are, Shopify, and I like getting their reviews because I'm like, at least... Who is it? No, I'm just kidding. I know, right? And I like them, and I think that it would be a huge bummer if those kind of individuals were gone. You need the spectrum of the team. Sometimes it's nice to be able to skim one through, and if they're two or three files, and they're chill, and I'm looking at them, and I'm just like... Hell yeah, brother, you know, like burn on. But some of them, especially if there are a lot of files, I'm like, I'm not letting this slip through.
I'm going to give this a good review because I don't want to deal with it later. Like whatever's happening and bugs are coming in. So. Anyway, bugs are also natural. There's so many stupid bugs. Like if I open up this menu and I hit escape and then I hover really quickly over here and then I do this, it's broken. You're like, well, that is just... On a Japanese keyboard with the... There's always some weird edge case that you're like... Always some. Yeah. Like I clicked it 486 times and after 485, it ran out of memory. Well, why did you click it so much? I don't know. Crazy stuff. Monkey, the chaos monkeys.
Hey, I got I had a weird question come up to myself recently, which was, do you feel like searching the web through search engines was more or less than a query in a bubble than like compared to AI? So, OK, you know how like did you ever hear that thing where it's like when you search Google, you're not actually searching the world. you're actually searching a very narrow subset that they believe is applicable to you. And that's the only way it can give you fast results. And that's why the results usually feel right. It's because you literally did not do an entire global query. And AI is the same thing.
People are using AI the same way that we were using AI. search engines a lot where they're just like, Oh, I'll go there and just ask and get an, get an answer. So my question again is, do you feel like AI is more or less of a bubble than what you were getting before AI in terms of search results? Is it more, more broad, like searching more data or what do you, I don't know exactly what you're asking. Um, You know, like the things it knows about you or it assumes about you or it assumes about the question. It's the same underlying current is there, which is that you're not actually querying the world.
You're not querying the world's intelligence in an AI model, just like search engine wasn't querying every website in the world. Which one, though, is more a liar? Um, it probably depends. I would, I feel like AI lies more because it knows more about you. Like Google knows a decent amount about you too, but, um, like it wants to be a sycophant and like it's. it wants to like, it wants to do what you want. So it's like, like I'll ask it a lot of stuff about like, you know, and I make the mistake of giving it the little nuggets of knowledge that I know. Like, what if, would this be a good idea? And if you do that, it goes, Oh yeah, that would be a great idea.
Like you were so good. Like, but if you go, I'm trying to do X and I have no idea how to do X, then it, it'll give you, you know, more objective, um, um, things like, so I'm, I, I get a lot of bad results of things because it wants to please me and get me an answer quickly. Um, and so I would think like Google didn't care as much about pleasing me maybe. So it was like a little more true sometimes. But didn't it, it only, they only made money if they gave you results that made you happy. It's like, it's so similar. Like they're motivated for the same things. Like, you know, if you have an account, like this was one of the age old things is you would spin up a new account, duck, duck, go, right.
A completely anonymous search for banjos versus you're signed into Google and you go do a search for banjos. Um, is there a place where I can have an anonymous AI query or is it sort of always attached to an account somewhere? I guess local LLMs are pretty good where they're just like, they just spin up totally dumb and then you give them a query and they just sort of like go through their pattern matching. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. It is nice that they have some memory and stuff for certain things. Like, you know, if I need help with podcast stuff, it kind of knows about the show already.
So it can like give me suggestions or whatever. Um, it knows that I, you know, I live in great falls in like the most gnats in the world area somehow. Um, so anytime I'm like, Hey, I'm trying to do this landscaping thing. It's like, Ooh, don't do that. That attract more gnats or whatever. Um, oh no, a good example. Um, so we're putting in a pergola outside. This is our nat solution, temporary nat solution. We're putting in a big pergola, like 10 by 13, and then it's going to have, um, you curtains that are mosquito nets. So you can just sit in there. So like a, you know, a makeshift screen porch.
Um, and so I was like, What was I? Man, I keep forgetting my first point about this. But no, I was like asking it about all of that and planning all that out. And it's oh, no, I know what it was. It was like I wanted to put a projector in to like watch football or whatever. And it was like, don't get a projector because gnats get in there and then you never get them out. And there's always like a black spot on your projector where they died in the in your lens or whatever. Yeah. And I'm like, oh, that's a good call. So I guess I'm going to look for outdoor TVs at some point. Dang. I mean, I see what you're saying, though.
Yeah, because... I guess I still don't know the answer. I'm still trying to toy around which one. And I suppose it depends on which model you use and just same thing with like which search engine did you use. But I was just thinking about how the fallacy that we sit down and we think we're querying everything, but we're actually not. We're getting a tailored lens and a bubble that it queries just to give you fast results and everything. Yeah, maybe AI is less like that. But it's more of a sycophancy. It's like sycophancy is built into it. So I don't know. There's a lot of tensions inside of there to navigate.
Yeah. I mean, I think one of the big assumptions why we think things aren't smart is we assume that humans are smart and that we have any amount of intelligence that's any different than these AI models. Like just because we feel like it is doesn't mean it is any different. We're just regurgitating bullshit also. So... Yeah. Yeah. We've talked about that here on, you know, and that's actually one of my points here is we say that we want stuff made by people, but exactly what you're describing is some people suck and they can suck at making stuff or they can lie to you about what they're giving you.
This was handmade. I made it. And then you take it home and you'd look at the bottom. It says made in China. You're like, ah, the human got me, you know, like I, so yeah, it's just, we can't trust a lot of things. It's hard to trust. Yeah. Images that we see, it's hard to trust products that we buy. People lie to us. AI lies to us. It's tough out there. It is. You should never trust anyone. I mean, that would suck to live that way. I'm just going to keep being naive. You know, it's not the end of the world yet. You know what is nice though? I got, let me see if I can get this up to where you can see it.
Oh, you got one. Have you pushed the button today? Um, so this, yeah. So for anyone that can't see, Oh yeah. Tell them what it is. Um, this is a codex micro, um, which is the same as a creator micro too, but built specifically for codex. I wish I had known there was going to be one that wasn't specifically for codex. Um, but, um, Alas, I need to try Codex because I feel like it's going to be really nicely integrated. And so I need to report back on that. But I spent the last couple days having OpenCode figure out how to make it work with itself. Yeah, cool. So it figured out all the codes for...
You have six light up things and like each tab of my terminal that is running open code will automatically grab one of those six. And then it will like, if it's doing nothing, it's just lit up greenish blue. If it's working, it's like blinking blue. If it needs your input, it turns yellow. So it's like, you know, P on ping, but like you can just visually see it. Yeah. So I can just sit there and do whatever. And then when one turns yellow, I'm like, yep, let me go see what you need. It's pretty sick. Would recommend. Nice. I love how it looks. I have like a little keyboard on the side here, too, and I really use it.
It's got some cool features that I was able to customize on it, but that's why I didn't get one. I was like, looks cool. I have a feeling it's going to collect dust next to my other one that I have. So I saw Joel, who's on the show, you know, a couple of weeks ago, he got both. And I know he does a lot of AI, so he's probably like six just won't be enough for me, you know. I hadn't considered using multiple. That's a good plan. But yeah, I'm never meaningfully running more than six. Like six is enough for me. Six is plenty. Yeah. I had a funny thing happen. So I said, did you see Muse Glimmer?
Facebook coming out with the open model that can run on your gaming machine? Like if you have a gaming machine with like a decent GPU. I heard those words mentioned. for like a second, but I didn't read anything about it. Tell me about it. Okay. Yeah. I got excited because I was like, Oh good. My machine is pretty old. Um, and I would love to run more local models. I've tried some of the ones before and they just hallucinated everything. I was like, this is unusable. And so I tried a muse glimmer and it's pretty dang good. It takes longer to respond than, you know, Claude does or whatever, but it's all local.
And so I give it pretty easy tasks. And then I have my punk assistants. My open cloth setup is, you know, driving various simple tasks to it. But I had the funniest thing happen that I want to tell you about, which was the dilemma between punk ass and glimmer. Yeah. where I would be like, it was like one was jealous of the other one and it was punk ass jealous that there was a new person. Um, you know, it's eager to, it's eager to help me or whatever. And so the way that I referenced glimmer, if it's not auto routing is I can specifically say glimmer colon, you know, suggest me a banjo song based on my, my banjo song list or whatever.
Um, And, um, punk ass would come back. Oh, like, Hey, I got you on that one. Here's a quick little song. This is one's really cool. And I'd be like, punk ass, it's not your turn to talk. You need to, you need to let Glimmer answer that. Oh yeah. Yeah. Okay. You're right. You're, you're totally right. I'll let Glimmer answer the next one. So I go back to the chat and I'll be like, Glimmer, you know, share with me a whiskey that I would like. And PunkCast would just pop in there and be like, you know, Glimmer's going to take like five minutes. Seriously, I started dissing it. Glimmer's going to take five minutes to respond.
And I just, you know, I'll just help you out now. I just might as well, right? Like I'm here. And I'm like, no, I want it. I was specifically talking. So I had, and then, you know, the other LLM's dumb, it shows up. So Glimmer's like, Hey, here's that thing you asked for. And, um, even then, even then, because Claude Claw is like routing it through and then bringing it back and putting it back into discord. It would adorn Glimmer's message with like disses. Yeah. This sucks. Like the time it took. Yeah, this answer could have been better. And it happened in four minutes and 37 seconds. I would have been, you know, 20 seconds.
And I'm just like, you are such a little turd. So I just had fun. I had like a little LLMs in a box, like fighting over my attention. And I was like, is this the future? This is weird. Yeah. I think there is a lot of that. They're all very different with their answers. Like even when I'm asking about practical stuff, like trying to get rid of my net problem, like one told me to spray every 15 seconds for like an hour twice a day because like they swarm in, you kill them all. New one storm and you kill them all was its thought. And then I asked another one and I was like, Hey, was that all correct?
And it's like, no, God, that's not going to work. Like you need to like do it for like two minutes straight twice a day and that's all you need or whatever. And I was like, huh? Okay. Um, so I don't know if either of them are correct, but like, yeah, they're very different. AI, AI powered turret system. That's just back there. Just like watching for nets. And then it just turns and does assault blast. Yeah. I keep telling my wife flamethrower hats would sell. When you have a big cloud of gnats around your head, you just... Gone. Where'd your eyebrows go? He's wearing a hat. Yeah, a lot of potential dangerous side effects of this system.
It's like laser vision too. Hey, you just look at the cloud and then you can zap it. Yeah, but then I looked at my spouse and I zapped them and that was really bad. You know, I got in trouble. They do have, um, they have this for mosquitoes. I don't know if you've seen this where it like will target them and zap them out of the air with like a laser beam, which sounds dangerous if it accidentally was like this person's a mosquito. That actually sounds like a jackass episode I want to watch, which is like them versus smart pest control. And they dress up like the pest and they just go buzz buzz, bitch.
And they try to get. Yeah. I could definitely see that. I could definitely see that too. Oh man, here's another funny thing in the news, AI news. Did you see watermarks are on all images and like in all responses now from all of the major providers? so that they can track what they've generated. They're like invisible watermarks though, right? They're invisible, yeah. And then the same day all those came out, someone hacked it and figured out how to strip all the watermarks off of every single one of them, open sourced it. And I was like, watermark on, watermark off. Watermark on, watermark off.
But what's the point? point like I guess it's good for you know if someone makes an AI image of like world leaders like shooting each other or something you can be like this wasn't real um but in terms of like attribution or can you sell it or not I think we've kind of that ship has sailed like who cares if it has a watermark or not you're going to sell it or you're not um but but from a misinformation standpoint I could see that being a good Good thing to have. But it's like it's the same thing as like, you know, a city outlaws guns, right? It's like no guns. All right, cool. Well, all the gang members still have guns like they don't care.
They're breaking the law. So the same thing with this. It's like if you're the kind of person who's spreading this misinformation, making money off of like selling lies on the Internet, then you don't care. You're going to use every nefarious tool to strip everything out and make it look real. Like what's the point? Doesn't doesn't matter. Yeah. It's a goose chase. Um, so yeah, that is just, it was funny. And you know, someone used AI to help them remove the watermarks. And so it's just this, a double edged sword. We knew the sword was swinging, you know, and we've seen it do this over time. Same thing with the security stuff.
You've seen the security things too, where it's like, Hey, we have a new super strong security model that can find all the bugs and fix them. Oh snap. It broke out of our own boxes. Oh snap. It's hacking other people. Um, yeah, this sword swings both ways, doesn't it? You know, I don't know what you mean. This is a utopia we live in. Nothing has gone wrong. It's all fine. We have a four-day work week. It's cool. Life is good. Oh, here is another one. We have a like seven-day work week now. Seriously. Well, yeah. And yeah, I feel like my five-day work week is extra difficult too. Yeah. Anyway, okay, so here, you know how like before 2026, you would show up somewhere and you would want free Wi-Fi.
But these days, you're like, free Wi-Fi? Ugh, where's my free tokens? So there's cafes now that you can show up. And as long as you're there in the cafe working, free tokens, not free Wi-Fi. That sounds like a losing proposition for the cafe. I see what they're going for. Yeah. And I think it has legs as a business concept. If you can limit it to be like, hey, you bought this latte. It's $10. If you use more than $10 in tokens, you got to cool down until you buy another latte or something. But Wi-Fi was never like that. But I guess Wi-Fi was a flat fee. You didn't have to pay per bite. Well, you did in some parts of the country.
Yeah. Yeah. If you had that like pay as you go at a cafe, you probably weren't giving it to that many, like people that were going to work there all day. I wouldn't give them metered internet. That would suck. Yeah. Anyway, I thought that was interesting. I was like the world we're living in now wants to give free tokens at the cafe. Yeah. Which I'm sure excites a lot of people. I haven't kept up with what everything OpenCode is doing, but I see a lot of Dax's tweets. I saw he had one about like they're working with all their partners to like, they're trying to just lower the cost like exponentially on everything.
Like what's the cheapest way to get all the same work done? And they're like, you know, a race to the lowest. Whereas like, you know, all the big models are a race to the highest. Like they want you to use Fable and pay them 20 bucks per time you talk to it. Like, Yeah. Um, so it will be interesting to see because I've been really enjoying fable and Opus is pretty good. And like when I don't have to pay for them, I love it. If I had to pay as much as it costs, I don't know if I would do it. Like I would, I would be more apt to experiment with some local models or something and try something there.
Um, I've been meaning to get a new machine anyway because I have a big Mac Pro and it never boots up right. And I'm just like, this is annoying. Piece of junk. Yeah. So, yeah, I want to get like maybe a framework desktop or I want to run probably Linux Linux. like I want to have one operating system and I want to work and play on it. So like whatever that means, whatever hacks you need for Linux to play games, um, I'll just do whatever you have to do. The steam installations, they've done pretty good about making Linux, um, get a lot of the same games. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's how I feel is like 90% of the games are on steam.
So most of them should work. Um, but I don't know. Gotcha. Yeah. Yep, I want to do more local models too, but right now I have punk ass trying to steal everything, trying to route it to local models, and it's like, no, I'm going to do it. Yeah, you should get another box and plug it in and see if it... Just open up ports. Let it discover. Just be like, hey, what's that doing? I did that recently. I had Punkass. I was like, hey... I fixed my 3D printer, which I feel really good about. I thought that was cool. Me and the kids sat down and debugged it. Ordered a tool. Anyway, we fixed it. But as I'm printing things, I'm wandering around their house.
I'm like... Telling a kid, hey, go upstairs and check to see if the print's done. How much longer? And I'm like, wait a sec. There's probably an IP address that I could just... Hey, punk ass. Discover my Elegoo 3D printer and tell me what kind of APIs you can... Oh, that's just using a standard protocol. You could just make... I'm like, do it. Just make the website. I want to see the time remaining. And it goes... Cool. I made it. And I'm like, sweet. This is the type of thing I want you to host local on my internet. Don't deploy it. Just give me an IP address with a port and I'll ping it right from my phone.
I know, right? Dang it. Um, and it was awesome. And I'm, I'm making more of those where these are apps that just live in my internet in my house and punk asses, facilitating, discovering back to your network from somewhere else and look at your stuff. I could. Yeah. So this is like that takes personal software into like personal private software, personal software getting made for me. The Elegoo app that this was the thing is the Elegoo app doesn't have. You have to have the the new model. The new model has an app that lets you see it on your mobile phone. But the old one that I have doesn't. And so I was like, well, Punkass made it.
Punkass made it for me. I went up to the you know, I prompted it from my phone on Discord. I went and filled up my water bottle and like laid down a bed and the site was done. And then I was like, make it look a little bit better. Use impeccable. Boom. It was done. It was awesome. I was like, this is totally the future. So I'm loving the discover protocols, discover IPs. Just find out what you can do on my network. Fix my Wi-Fi. Look at my router. What are the settings? Like all that. So discover my PC. I told you I did that, right? Where it's just like, look at the PC and look at the settings.
This is a gaming machine. I'm using it now for you. Optimize it. What does this Windows machine need to tweak so I can get rid of garbage? And it just runs all these CLI commands and just figures it all out. It is amazing. Yeah, it is crazy. I saw Ryan Vogel is making a thing. I don't know if you saw this where there's apparently an API for like iPhones can scan your house and make a 3D floor plan just from like looking around. Oh, wow. And so he has he's working on an app that I'm super excited for because I feel like I've never had a solution for this problem. But you do that around your whole house.
And at the same time as you're walking around and building the floor plan, it's checking how strong your Wi-Fi signal is in each spot. And it'll map out like where your dead zones are, like where you should move your routers to and stuff. I'm like, that is sick. Like all we have now is there's like really complicated things for like, you know, people that build networks for a living that understand like what the signals mean and where stuff should be. But like, you know, he's building stuff like that, like every day. And like the, we're going to get so many tools that hopefully will just make like quality of life so much better.
Yep, I agree. We've got a question in the chat that says, wondering what the code looked like under the hood to those quick programs you had it right, which is personal, so maybe it doesn't matter, but they're curious. Yeah, there's time. So I have a bunch of PWAs, and we talked about them on the show. I have a banjo songbook. I have a birthday app tracker. Um, I have guitar tabs that I, uh, went and took off of the guitar tabs website and put them in my own pocket. Um, I have a lot of these PWAs, those ones, I tend to look at the code a little bit because I want them to be web. They're all built with Astro and then a little bit of Svelte.
Um, you know, I, I have like control over those, but this one that is connected to the Elegoo and just shows a video stream and it like a little bit of data, like I don't care at all. All I care about is the results. Um, yeah. And I kind of feel like that's where we're moving more towards is. I was going to say, do you care ever if the results are good? Do you ever care anymore? I'm finding myself caring less and less. I care less and less too. And I was trying to tell my, I think it was my spouse the other day. I was like, I didn't get into this industry because I liked laying bricks. I like making houses and I like making houses that are dwellable, that are enjoyable.
And then I end up putting a cool, fancy decor in them. And I like making spaces for humans. I like doing things for humans. Yeah. And laying bricks and running pipes and stuff was just part of the job to get to the end goal. Well, now I don't have to do that anymore. I'm still creating dwellings, but I don't have to worry about laying the bricks and mixing mortar anymore. Like these are just things I don't have to do. And so I'm kind of liberated in a lot of ways. Even though, you know, before all this happened, I was very much the one mixing all of my own mortar to the T because I was a CSS nerd and I was like really intimate with my materials.
And these days I find the materials just drifting away and more focus on what and why I want something. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like. at least right now I'm still somewhat building based on like probably a completely false assumption that we'll ever look at the code again and someone needs to maintain this. And, uh, you know, how would I want it to be if I came back a few years from now and had to fix something? Um, I'm trying to like have those sort of standards in mind, even if not for me, if like for it's better for AI, if you have more standards and guardrails and whatever too. But like, I feel like it, it just doesn't, it doesn't matter as long as like, you know, you're, you have to verify what it's building is working in some way, whether that's automated testing, manual testing, whatever.
But, yeah i'm at the point now like especially building this like doorway app and you know software that's not anywhere close to my domain exactly i'm like i don't care then like even for web stuff i'm like you know i would prefer to use tailwind and there's actually you know good reasons to use it even if it's not just the syntax right like you get the free tree shaking of all your styles so you're not going to have a ton of like I have display flex 487,000 times in my code base. Like you're not going to have that because it's like, and that does that save you a meaningful amount of bytes from that specific example?
No, but you get what I mean. Um, So yeah, I don't know. I like trying to still build stuff in the right way, but I think we're one level above that now. It's like abstracted out to, I know the problem, like a concrete problem there. I don't want a bunch of duplicate CSS. I want to keep my bundle small. If you keep that... high level problem in mind, whether you use Tailwind, some other library or vanilla CSS, it doesn't really matter as long as you're accomplishing that goal. And I think we're moving to that. It's like, it's just like we've talked about before. Is it like just a compiled language essentially?
Like, will you program in English and LLM interprets it as code, whatever, like just a higher level of thinking about the same things. But for me, sorry, I'm rambling, but last point, all the dopamine is still gone for me though. I'm not like, I very rarely go like, God, that was fun. Whereas I used to get that a lot, you know? Yeah, no, I feel that I definitely I had a lot of pride in the way that I laid bricks before and I knew that people could show up to the houses that I made and they knew that they were my houses. I had trademark traces that you could find amongst my work and that's that's gone now.
Um, but something that I, I was thinking about while you were going that I really enjoyed thinking about was when I first got, um, my, uh, first coding job, like at a software agency was ratio interactive in like 2006, uh, mate, wait, 2009. Anyway, whatever we were building websites and iPhone and iPad apps and stuff like that. And I remember talking to some of the more senior developers and they were like, you need to go get the book by the trio or the famous three about design patterns. Do you know this book? It's apparently a famous code. I don't read books. I could probably go find it. I have it somewhere.
And so I went and bought it. I was like, okay, this person's telling me I need to learn design patterns. And I was like, design patterns is a weird word for coding solutions. Okay. And I went and I got it. And this is where people use terms like flywheel and abstract. Well, I mean, just like object-oriented programming design patterns. I think this was an object-oriented design patterns book. You had adapter patterns and flywheels and all these different patterns. And I remember reading them going, this is way over my head. And it was written in C++. So like the code examples were C++. However, I'm thinking about it right now going, those are wildly important because that's basically all I look for when I'm reviewing code these days.
And when I'm asking for things, my engineering brain is now in design pattern land and State machine land, ways to solve problems land, not the details of how to solve it. Like I don't go write C++. I don't need to know how to implement a flywheel. What I need to know is what a flywheel does and how it integrates with the rest of an application. And so similar to like computer science in general, like algorithms, if you know the like time complexity, the big O notation of whatever, you know which one is better. You can just tell your LLM to use that algorithm like you never again. I would argue we never should have had to like whiteboard and code algorithms is stupid.
Yeah. But you never have to care about that anymore. Like if anyone asks you that now, they're just nuts. You should know though, like it's helpful to know nesting 24 loops and doing them one at a time is going to take a long time. Like if you know patterns to avoid and what things to use, then you can be, you can tell your LLM better ways to do stuff. So yeah. Still useful. Nice. And it's the gang of four, by the way, I said that the famous three, the famous three are actually the people that wrote like all the pop songs from like Oh five to 2015. They're just like three people wrote the lyrics and melodies to like literally every pop song ever for a long time.
A lot of the gang of four. So, Yeah, man. Okay. So one more thing. This is a web platform thing. So anybody who wants to, you can tune out if you don't care about the web platform for it. Right now there's two CSS things that got me super pumped over the past week. And I want to talk about them really quick. The first one is the scroll access lock CSS property. And if you've ever been on your mobile device and you can scroll up, you can scroll left and right, but have you ever tried to scroll diagonally If you, if you, let's say you're on like a map and they used actual scroll, so they didn't make a canvas that followed your panning.
Yeah. Scroll has traditionally always locked you into an axis based on your gesture. So if you try to go diagonal, it'll go down and then right. And it's sort of like feels sticky on an axis. And there's a new CSS property coming out that allows you to liberate yourself from that. And so, you know, it's like unhinged scrolling. And this is really important. Anytime you have X and Y scrollers, like think about like a data table. And you have a table you can scroll up and left and right. And you want to go down to the bottom right one. even the methods that you would call to go to the bottom right would be like down and then right.
But now we can just go diagonal. So it's just like a cool CSS property coming out, liberates you from this, which opens up a bunch of new interaction opportunities. And I thought that was a cool one to check out. I also wrote a blog post on it. I learned about it from Bramis Van Damme and totally worthwhile checking this thing out. And then the other one that I thought was awesome was by Tamani. And it's, I'm calling it CSS Signals. And this is going to be really hard to mouse blog. But basically CSS is... has this concept in scroll-driven animation where an element knows if it's in a scroll port.
So this becomes really obvious for an example. You're like, is my header, you know, my header just came in from the bottom, it's in the viewport, and now CSS knows, and then it scrolls out of the viewport, and it knows. And it can set values. Another really impactful feature of this is something somewhere else on the page can observe that header going in and out of the viewport. The most obvious example is you've got like a sticky. I know you've seen this on like a marketing page. There's like a sticky image. And as you scroll, text goes up and down. And as the new header comes in, it says like famous.
And then the image flips to somebody famous. And then you scroll more and it goes like soccer. Image flips to soccer. Somehow this thing here that's flipping is aware of the presence of these headers perfectly so that it's staying in sync. It's an intersection observer. Yeah. It's an intersection observer broadcasting that it's intersecting. Something else is subscribing to that broadcast, right? So in CSS, we have the exact same mechanism with animation timeline. That's how this thing says I'm going in and out of the viewport. It can broadcast that timeline, though, with something called timeline scope, and you can hoist animation.
the broadcast up the tree. And then any child that's below that particular branch can subscribe. So basically we're in a pub sub scenario where an element going in and out of the viewport is publishing, whether it's going in or out of the viewport through a particular part of the tree, another node is subscribing to that. Okay, it's kind of like data flow. What Tamani did is they set it up to where imagine you have a grid of like 20 elements and each one has a little scroll area, just a little tiny scroll area. And when you hover, it pushes a child element that you can't see out of that little tiny scroll area.
That little tiny bit that just got flipped publishes its data up the tree and anything around could subscribe and say, is that thing being hovered? Because you think about it like you had has has would tell you if something was hovered or not, but it's expensive. And this is cheap. And you just fake it with a whole bunch of little scroll areas that you put a little pixel that goes in and out of this like tiny scroll area. And then anything. So that's why it's CSS signals. You've got this little atomic element. that holds state, that can broadcast it, and other things could subscribe, and you have CSS doing wildly cool features by abusing scroll-driven animations and a scroll state with this timeline scope feature.
Anyway, I'm still geeking out about it. It's just a really, really cool way to use data in CSS. Yeah, it is a programming language, if anyone was wondering. Yeah. We still don't have signals in JavaScript yet, do we? Are they still working on that? I think so. Yeah. Yeah. Signals are the best. It's so much better. I do like signals. Yeah. I agree. I'm going to find that article. I'll share it out here. Yeah. We haven't shat on all the JavaScript things we don't like in a while because we talk so much AI. I feel like we need to get back to our roots. Yeah. Where's all the slamming that used to happen here?
Dang it. I brought positivity. My bad, dude. It's fine. Oh, let's see. Okay. I need to know what's happening with your workout, uh, wall attached ribbons or, uh, strands or whatever. Have you pulled them out the wall yet? Has the app stopped working? Have you smacked yourself in the face? Like what's happening? I need to know. No, it's, it's working great. Uh, Caitlin and I are both using it at least a couple of times a week. We have like, you know, aspirations that I'm going to wake up at 6am and my workout right then that hardly ever happens, but, um, still getting the workouts in. It's very fun because, um, it, it doesn't like, it mixes stuff up.
Like the first thing will be like a drop set. Like you'll do, um, heavier until you can't anymore. And then it drops it by two pounds. You keep going. Then you stop, it drops it by two pounds. You keep going kind of stuff like that built in where you don't have to change any weights manually is pretty cool. Um, it has like games where you like pull it down, like, and at like a, like, it's like, um, pong isn't the right word, but you have like all these balls that come down, right. And then you're trying to catch them with this thing and you're moving it around based on how much you're pulling on the, so it's like gamifying your workout too.
Like I've, I enjoy it. Um, nothing is broken. It's all worked. Um, I think the, for people looking for like, so it's called AMP. I don't know if I said that, but if you're looking for a system and you care about like a real person talking to you and motivate like a personal trainer vibe, you probably want tonal. Like that's why tonal is so much more expensive. It's got like real trainers. This is like, there's three trainers that are like AI fake people that like will talk to you. Yeah. And it's fine because all they say is like, good job lifting that. Like, whatever. Like, it's not it's not a big deal.
But that's like the but it doesn't feel janky. Like nothing has broken. It's all good. Would recommend if you're looking for a workout system. Yeah. Kind of, kind of looking for one. I've been using my body weight. Um, so doing pull-ups, pushups, like I just want to be able to carry my own body better. Getting for hitting 40, I think it's hurting more and more. Even just like, Oh, I chased some kids, uh, at like at the end of like an event or something. It's just like, Oh snap, I am out of shape. I need to be able to chase children. Uh, that sucks that I couldn't, you know, Yeah. Yeah. I feel that.
Another nice feature. It has a little shelf. Like you put your phone on it. Your phone is the screen, but the shelf will fit your MacBook so you can have your agents running. And like while you have a little rest, you can like give it some feedback. Hey, that's a great way. Hey, wait, isn't that what the dude who made a pretext did? He was like he had agents running and he was just like bouncing on a medicine ball and doing workouts and stuff, staring at it. Oh, I don't know. I mean, I think it's a great way to do it because watching agents work is boring and working out is boring. But together, there are exciting parts of both.
Like it plays off the business. The business is the tokens are free if you're working out. It's like a hamster wheel. You have to be working out. And as you work out, it pays down the cost it takes for the tasks to get done. It's amazing. Yeah, we'll call it a... No, I don't have a fun name. Damn it. I thought something would come to me. Yeah, I like that though. Yeah, we're over time, but just quick update also on Jeff. My mower is still doing terrible. He's... So we moved... He has this thing. It's called an RTK, which I don't know what it stands for other than like really terrible, kinda, I don't know.
Like, but it's like a GPS system, right? And so it has to have a full-time kinematic 360 view of the sky. And then it can beam. It's like the reference point. It's zero, zero. And then all of your maps are based off that. Yep. Yep. And so if it doesn't, um, if it can't connect to that, right. Or it's a little like, it's not hitting as many GPS satellites. It'll start to have an offset and then it'll be like way in the woods and just mowing the woods, like breaking itself, like doing stupid stuff. Um, so we moved that up higher and further away from the trees so that it would be better. And it, it like claimed it was better, but it's still having a hard time.
It's like, can't figure stuff out. I don't know. Um, I think if you live in an area with better cell service, it would probably work better. And most of the robot mowers would work better if you have a lot of cell service, but we have none. So, uh, it connects to the wifi close to the house. And then like, it'll be out in the street. We went to our friend's, uh, birthday party. It was in the street. You're just like, ah, it's like shame. You're just like, That's mine. It's my robot. It's stupid. Well, I wasn't even there. So like I'm at my friend's birthday party like an hour away. Right. And it's like error.
Robots mowing the neighbor's lawn. You're like, yeah, it's supposed to be mine. It was like out of bounds. And when it's out of bounds, I don't know why it's like this. You can look at the map. You can see it's right next to where it's supposed to be. You can't control it then and tell it to go back into bounds. If it's out of bounds, it's just stuck there until you go. You can't like touch a point and have it go there. Oh, nice. Yeah. And I'm like, but you know, kind of where you are. Like if you know you're in the road and my yard is to the left. I don't care if you can make it back to a super safe spot.
Just get out of the road. Go that direction. And you can't at all. And so, yeah, this lady comes and rings our doorbell. And I'm like, oh, shit. She found Jeff out in the street. And so she... I think you lost your dog. We didn't answer. And then so there's a camera on Jeff that you can watch. You can't control him, but you can look. And I can see this lady picking him up and moving him over to the side of the road. I'm like... Oh, man. So, yeah, it's a lot of stupid stuff like that. But it actually does a really good mowing job. Like the grass where it does mow looks good. But do you get to choose the designs, too?
Is it do cool designs? Crop circle shit? Yeah. No, this one is not that smart. There are some... I forget what it's called, but there's one where you can put a shape, like whatever you want, like your school's logo or whatever. Or no, go to prom with me? Go to prom? You can do whatever you want. If you have enough cell service and you have the right models where you can program it like that, you can do whatever pattern you want. Ours will just do... It mows one direction and then it mows the other direction. So it'll be like a... crosshatch kind of pattern or whatever. Oh, cool. Like a baseball field.
Yeah. Yeah. Man, that's awesome. Oh, yeah. Thank you for sharing that. That brings me a lot of joy to hear that. And I'm just going to do one more thing in there, which is I joined the Scotch malt whiskey society, the specialist Scotch society. And I'm excited to just get all the peated peated things. I'm like, send me the peat. If there's peat that shows up there, I'll be getting it. And I shared a link. You can join me. I'm excited. I can't wait. Nice. Cool. All right. Thanks everyone for listening. If you'd like to please subscribe, leave us some ratings and reviews. We appreciate it. And we will catch you next time.
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