236: The Manager Has Become The Managed (Presented by Warp)

This week, Robbie and Adam sit down with Amelia Wattenberger—digital creative, product builder, and former principal research engineer at GitHub—to talk about AI agents, the death of chatbots, and whether typing code is officially over. They dig into the exhausting pace of AI tooling, why specs still aren't taking off, the anxiety of being managed by your own bots, and how Amelia's new project Intent is bundling workspaces, agents, and browsers into one cohesive developer experience. Along the way, they debate voice coding, the loss of craft, rubber duck debugging in the age of Claude, and why slowing down might be the only way to go fast.

Presented by Warp: https://www.warp.dev/oz

In this episode:

Chapters

• 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions
• 00:02:06 Whiskey Tasting: Jypsi Explorer Bourbon
• 00:09:00 Were AI Chatbots a Mistake?
• 00:18:49 The Manager Has Become The Managed
• 00:27:39 The Death of the Craft & The New Loop
• 00:37:07 Voice vs Typing: The Future of Input
• 00:41:51 Intent: Rethinking Developer Workspaces
• 00:44:39 Spectrum Development & Agent Orchestration
• 00:51:49 Building Across Platforms & Custom Keyboards
• 01:03:24 Wrap Up & Where to Find Intent

Links

• Jypsi Explorer: https://whiskeyjypsi.com/whiskey/explorer/

• Eric Church: https://www.ericchurch.com/

• Dreamweaver: https://www.adobe.com/products/dreamweaver.html

• Rent a Human: https://rentahuman.ai/

• OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw

• Claude: https://claude.ai/

• OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/

• Warp: https://www.warp.dev/

• Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/

• Intent: https://intent.ai/

• Augment Code: https://www.augmentcode.com/

• GitHub: https://github.com/

• Swach: https://www.swach.io/

• Zed: https://zed.dev/

• Figma: https://www.figma.com/

• Webflow: https://webflow.com/

• VSCode: https://code.visualstudio.com/

• Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/

• Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/

• OpenAI: https://openai.com/

• Elgato: https://www.elgato.com/

• Linux: https://www.linux.org/

• Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/

Connect with Amelia

• Website: https://wattenberger.com/

• X / Twitter: https://x.com/Wattenberger

Connect with the hosts

• Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner

• Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter

• Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

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