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68: Advent of Whiskey: Testing the Hype of ChatGPT, GitLab, and Holiday Trivia

Popularity doesn’t equal quality. We’ve seen it with React and the latest technology to fall victim to this is OpenAI’s chatbot, ChatGPT. ChatGPT is trending on Twitter and is talked about as one of the great innovations of this era. But when Chuck and Robbie...

Show Notes

Popularity doesn’t equal quality. We’ve seen it with React and the latest technology to fall victim to this is OpenAI’s chatbot, ChatGPT.

ChatGPT is trending on Twitter and is talked about as one of the great innovations of this era. But when Chuck and Robbie put it to the test to recommend podcast topics, it doesn’t present the most imaginative ideas. Despite the hype, the tech is not all-knowing – it is only as smart as the people who make it. On the other hand, GitLab has the opposite problem. The platform has all the components for success, but it still isn’t heavily adopted in the open-source community.

In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about their experience using ChatGPT to generate topics for the podcast, what’s holding back GitLab in the open-source community, and their favorite holiday trivia.

Key Takeaways

  • [00:37] - Number 11 Whiskey: Walsh Whiskey - The Irishman Single Malt.
  • [02:58] - Number 12 Whiskey: Balcones - Linage Texas Single Malt Whisky.
  • [07:30] - Asking ChatGPT to generate podcast topics.
  • [09:52] - Factors hindering GitLab in the open source community.
  • [20:18] - Holiday Trivia.

Quotes

[10:15] - “GitLab is a pretty holistic product in terms of not just hosting Git repositories. It’s pretty feature-rich.” ~ Chuck Carpenter

[14:25] - “I admit that most of what Microsoft does is really good, it's just Windows that's not good, and even they know that.” ~ Robbie Wagner

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[00:00:00] Robbie: What’s going on everybody? Welcome to Whiskey Web and whatnot. Advent of Whiskey Edition, episode number five. Today we have Whiskey’s 11, 12, and 13 to try, which are from Ireland and the US it seems like. So. Should be good. And I guess we can introduce ourselves. We do that every time. I’m Robbie still and that’s still Chuck.

[00:00:27] Robbie: If you’ve been listening, we’re the same people. Um, let’s jump into it.

[00:00:33] Chuck: Someday. I’m gonna be someone else.

[00:00:35] Robbie: Yeah. Maybe next episode we can be different people.

[00:00:39] Chuck: right. We can be the Irishman. Uh, this comes from, uh, Walsh Whiskey. It is actually called the Irishman, um, not age stated. It’s a blended whiskey and it is only 80 proof, so a little lower on that stage of things. Um, oh, here we go. It’s a [00:01:00] blend of 70% single malt and 30% single pot still spirits aged in Burman cask.

[00:01:08] Chuck: This twist on a classic adds a very nice and layered complexity. We’ll, ill be the judge of that.

[00:01:15] Robbie: All right.

[00:01:16] Chuck: Smell

[00:01:17] Robbie: had forgotten to do my rating on the other one on the app, so I did that real quick.

[00:01:22] Chuck: Perfect. Okay. Hm. I don’t know.

[00:01:41] Robbie: It smells like, uh, sour Skittles.

[00:01:50] Chuck: Hmm. I would’ve got, I would’ve said a little fruity, but Skittles, sour Skittles. [00:02:00] That’s

[00:02:00] Robbie: Like you just opened a pack of sour Skittles. You’re ready to tear your mouth up. And

[00:02:06] Chuck: That’s what it

[00:02:07] Robbie: it’s what it feels like to me.

[00:02:08] Chuck: Interesting. I don’t, I didn’t even know there were sour Skittles. I

[00:02:11] Robbie: Oh, you’re missing out. I.

[00:02:21] Chuck: It’s pretty mellow, pretty mild there. Little vanilla

[00:02:25] Robbie: taste like sour Skittles.

[00:02:27] Chuck: Not at all. No sourness whatsoever. Not really. Even getting the fruitiness. I’m getting a little bitter like citrus Rhine and I’m getting a little vanilla. Um, and then it just kind of finishes pretty weekly, so it’s okay.

[00:02:46] Robbie: Yeah, it’s not much burn. Maybe a little floral or.

[00:02:51] Chuck: Yeah. A little spice at the end, but then it just doesn’t burn. A little spice at the end, but no burn for me,

[00:02:58] Robbie: It kind of tastes like, uh, [00:03:00] you know, those edible flowers they put on plates sometimes a little bit of.

[00:03:04] Chuck: Hmm. Yeah, so it’s not bad. It, um, I think the most interesting part for me is just that little tinge of vanilla though, and, and then it goes away pretty quickly. So I guess it’s refreshing in a way and, and that, um, but not that interesting to me. I’m gonna get it like a four for Irish whiskeys.

[00:03:25] Robbie: Yeah, I would concur. It’s a four, so I give that a negative two on the app and we’ll say, Uh, fruity.

[00:03:36] Chuck: Fruity Fructose. The next one is a Texas Whiskey. B Cones or Alcon. Alcon is balconies.

[00:03:50] Robbie: we had one of those and, uh, we were try , I think Rupi told us how to say it, but I forget.

[00:03:55] Chuck: Mm. Uh, we might have even had this one actually, cuz this [00:04:00] one is the lineage Lineage. American Single Walt. Single Malt. Geez. Um, so it’s 47%, uh, it’s a single malt whiskey, uh, no age statement. I feel like we, this is the one we had.

[00:04:13] Robbie: Actually, no, we didn’t. I don’t think we got their malt. That’s what we were trying to get, I think. And they, we didn’t, couldn’t find it.

[00:04:20] Chuck: Mm. Okay. Well here it is. I guess. I guess I’m wrong. Ooh,

[00:04:27] Robbie: my other whiskey.

[00:04:28] Chuck: that’s fine. I’m not finishing. I’m moving ahead a little. Hmm. I feel like a little apple pie or something in that one Glen car and see what happens. Yeah, apple pie.

[00:04:47] Robbie: Let’s see.

[00:04:49] Chuck: Yeah, this one could be interesting.

[00:04:52] Robbie: Oh. It smells like a tire shop,

[00:04:56] Chuck: Hmm.

[00:04:57] Robbie: lots of rubber, lots of, [00:05:00] uh,

[00:05:01] Chuck: that’s hilarious.

[00:05:01] Robbie: oil and carburetors, catalytic converters. It smells

[00:05:06] Chuck: actually like, I like those smells, but I’m not getting any of that at all.

[00:05:10] Robbie: Um, I’m not now, now it, it’s turned it’s much worse

[00:05:16] Chuck: Well, I’m getting apple pie. That’s all I can tell

[00:05:18] Robbie: There’s. A lot of vinegar. Um, like a kagy, saue, crowdy

[00:05:26] Chuck: Oh, this is from Texas, not India. Anybody who listened to the first set of episodes,

[00:05:32] Robbie: but it’s their malt. And like, that’s, this is like that one, uh, that was my worst one.

[00:05:43] Chuck: I don’t know. I’m not getting that. I got a little nuttiness

[00:05:47] Robbie: tastes better than it smell.

[00:05:49] Chuck: Maybe you got it cold. It’s a little weird at the end. It gets a little woody at the end, but in the beginning it’s kind of got some nuttiness to it. a [00:06:00] little like hardier seeming. Yeah. Don’t taste the apples. It’s got a little bitter at the end.

[00:06:08] Robbie: It tastes like a burger,

[00:06:11] Chuck: Hmm. I love burgers.

[00:06:13] Robbie: bit of meat.

[00:06:15] Chuck: I think we’ve talked about this at some point or another where Yeah, it does have like a little meat and potatoes kind of feel to it. Um, where burgers is like one of my favorite foods anyway.

[00:06:28] Robbie: Yeah. I’m actually gonna be making some red meat tonight, so,

[00:06:33] Chuck: Ah, I see. Um, so how do we categorize this one? This is an American single malt. It’s not like, so it’s not a scotch comparison. It’s not a bourbon, it’s not a rye. It would be just considered like American whiskey if you

[00:06:47] Robbie: Yeah, but I think it’s kind of in the scotch category. Like I know it’s not a hundred percent the same, but compared to classic SCOs, I would prefer this.

[00:06:58] Chuck: Right. Yeah, but I think you would just [00:07:00] say like, that’s in the same way where you’d say, compared to classic scotches, I would prefer a rye. Well, yes, of course. And this is, you know, so I just don’t know that I, I can put that in the same category there. Let’s see if I

[00:07:13] Robbie: I mean, we could, we could start categorizing by single malt, I guess.

[00:07:19] Chuck: Yeah, that could be a kind Nashville categorized by Nashville.

[00:07:22] Robbie: Yeah. That’s kind of what we do, but like we’ve also been doing geography as well.

[00:07:28] Chuck: Yeah. Um, well, I think for, I don’t know, just an American whiskey, it’s a little different. Um, I don’t mind it. I think it’s, I think it’s interesting. I don’t think, I’m not like, whoa blown way, but the smell was nice, the initial like flavor of it. I can see like after a nice hardy dinner sipping on a little of this, um, a little torn cuz I’m getting stricter in my,

[00:07:58] Robbie: Cool.

[00:07:58] Chuck: my ratings.

[00:07:59] Chuck: But I’m [00:08:00] like five or six. I’m gonna go five.

[00:08:04] Robbie: Yeah, I don’t know. I don’t love it, so I don’t know why, but I feel like it should be a six because it feels versatile. It, it feels like it would be great after a big stake. Um,

[00:08:18] Chuck: I really like the first sip of it and I think like it just a little, little bit lets me down the rest of the way. So this is one. Maybe other where’s

[00:08:27] Robbie: Interesting for everyone to like try a little of, I don’t think you would want to sip on it all night.

[00:08:31] Chuck: right, if you find yourself in Austin, I think is where BALs is. Then Balcones, which is what

[00:08:39] Robbie: Bow cones,

[00:08:42] Chuck: battle ball cones. Balconies don’t

[00:08:47] Robbie: It’s, yes. Bal is whiskey.

[00:08:50] Chuck: B is whiskey. It’s perfect. Alrighty. Yeah,

[00:08:53] Robbie: right, so yeah, let me say, let’s see. Sorry, I have to write this on [00:09:00] the app. Blah, blah, blah, blah,

[00:09:01] Chuck: So, top of mind for, um, things in tech, uh, in this short. Amount of time, uh, it seems to be essentially chat, g p t doing all kinds of different things, including like responding to emails and writing programming things and whatever else. And we were at a loss because we’re doing so many of these episodes, uh, in a row.

[00:09:23] Chuck: Um, as to additional tech topics, like what, what is new and happening and, and, um, so I just tried to type into chat, g p t. Can you give me some suggestions on topics for a technology podcast? And, uh, it, it kind of underwhelmed me. I mean, I, I, it had a very distinct, uh, lengthy response, but it was kind of like high level bullet points, right?

[00:09:47] Chuck: Like, have guests on, uh, ask them questions or talk about trending news in technology or, you know, things like that, which happens to be just chat G B T. So maybe it’s just that’s [00:10:00] how they internally, uh, keep themselves relevant. Talk about us.

[00:10:06] Robbie: Yeah. I don’t know. I think, um, It’s just that it’s not necessarily good at answering the exact question, uh, as phrased. So it’s kind of like, maybe we should say more like, uh, what are the top 10 articles on dev dot two? Or like, what has WEBO tweeted about in the past week? Um, stuff like that.

[00:10:32] Chuck: Mm. Yeah, that’s true. That’d be very specific. Maybe we can figure that out. What has Wes talked about in the last week? Um,

[00:10:40] Robbie: Well, he talked about the Eyedropper API and I was like, Hey, we use that in Swatch and he liked it cuz everything that I post is he likes, like, on stuff that he’s posted. Like I, I still want to know if he’s actually going through and clicking the likes or if something does that for him.[00:11:00]

[00:11:01] Chuck: feel like maybe a direct, maybe a DM is the way to solve that problem. I don’t know.

[00:11:07] Robbie: Yeah. No. You don’t think he listens to this where I’m asking if he’s doing that. I don’t know. I, I don’t, I don’t think he’s ever listened personally. But

[00:11:18] Chuck: he’s a listen to at least one episode. I would, I’d be

[00:11:20] Robbie: the one he was on,

[00:11:22] Chuck: Yeah, sure. Um,

[00:11:24] Robbie: I don’t know. He did say it is like a format he would listen to, but then we do shit. Not know what to talk about and ask Chat g p t, so probably lost them there.

[00:11:35] Chuck: Well here, here’s how I use Caddy Server to get local HTTPS and a custom domain without port numbers. Super simple.

[00:11:44] Robbie: Hmm.

[00:11:45] Chuck: This would solve an issue with H T T P S across local dev for next js? Possibly. That’s what it makes me think of. I did have a thing I was going to ask you about. So I was thinking about this like the other day for whatever reason, [00:12:00] so like, Get Lab is a pretty holistic, um, product in terms of like, not just hosting, um, get repositories, but like having, it’s pretty feature rich, right?

[00:12:13] Chuck: With like the documentation side of it with the built in C I C D, things like that. So what, what do you think, why do you think, what do you think is holding back GitLab as a more pervasive product in the open source world?

[00:12:29] Robbie: Um, I think it’s a lot of things. I think one thing, uh, I actually haven’t used GitLab a ton because, um, I haven’t wanted to use it, but, um, maybe you could tell me if you’ve used it more. Does it, it doesn’t have as much of a system, I think around. Gamification of like, I need to get my graph green. I’m going to follow all the devs I like, I’m going to like see what projects they have, make sure their graphs are green.

[00:12:58] Robbie: We’re all doing this like open [00:13:00] source thing together. Um, like that community feel. So it’s like there’s a lot of aspects to that and I think some of it is, What’s the word? Like the cool factor of like, if, if you want to be cool, like, okay, yeah, I can build my own, uh, platform that shows what I’ve worked on, but if no one uses it, but like 10 people, then how cool can I be? I can’t like show it off to everyone and. . show all the stuff I’ve worked on, and it’s, it’s just like the default place where most things go.

[00:13:36] Robbie: So it’s, it’s similar coolness factor, honestly, to like how React stays popular, where it’s just like, because everyone uses it, it’s popular and I don’t think that’s gonna change. Even if you made like a really amazing platform that did better than it does because it’s what we’re used to. And they keep adding new features like they’re.

[00:13:58] Robbie: Done and you know, [00:14:00] like use it or don’t they keep making it better. So

[00:14:04] Robbie: I don’t know.

[00:14:05] Chuck: I mean, it has a lot of parity in terms of features. I do feel like there’s like a social element that’s somehow kind of missing, cuz you do have like, uh, an activity chart, you know, with, with little blocks of various colors, you know, for how busy and effective you’ve been. You have followers and you can follow other people and things like

[00:14:26] Robbie: talking about GitLab right now,

[00:14:27] Chuck: Get lab. Yeah. So there’s parody there on a lot of these things, but it feels like. It’s just not, you know,

[00:14:37] Robbie: yeah. I thought you were gonna say something there, but so it, uh, To me, it’s the analogy I would give it. And it’s not a great analogy these days cuz I think a lot of people have left Facebook, but it’s like, you know, everyone has a new startup idea and oh, it’s Facebook for X and I wanna make this new Facebook clone.

[00:14:54] Robbie: And okay, well like, why would someone use it? Cuz Facebook exists, right? Like [00:15:00] if you make one that’s way, way better. The argument, I think from people, like some people might try it and go like, oh yeah, this is kind of cool. But then the argument would be, well, all my friends are on Facebook, so like if I want to talk to them, I stay there.

[00:15:13] Robbie: And it’s kind of similar on GitHub, I think like all the big projects are there. It’s easy to contribute to everything. Why would I wanna move from it other than like, I don’t even remember what the big scandals were. I, I guess it was that like GitHub, uh, that ice used GitHub or something, and

[00:15:31] Chuck: there was some of that. So yes, there was um, some, I guess you would say more old dilemmas around that. But there also was apparently like a culture. There was some culture issues around, um, with the way like junior engineers were taught and also the way minorities and females were, were treated, uh, within the organization.

[00:15:52] Chuck: I think there was like some potential sexual harassment things. I don’t recall. I might be way more than it was, but [00:16:00] I, I, yeah. I think that there were some kind of big issues

[00:16:03] Robbie: Hmm. Okay. So yeah.

[00:16:05] Chuck: Yeah, projected in the public and then you. I, I would imagine things maybe different now being part of like the giant conglomerate that is Microsoft.

[00:16:15] Chuck: I think that’s the appealing thing about GitLab for me, is it’s just like really, is it just gonna be everything Microsoft we just use now? Like they won. In the end we are like, no, we’re gonna use Mac and Linux and we’re not buying your licenses and we don’t want your stuff. And they’re like, well then we’ll just buy the stuff you do use.

[00:16:36] Robbie: I, yeah, I’ve, I’ve turned the corner on that cuz I admit that like most stuff Microsoft does is really good. It’s like, it’s just windows that’s not good. And even they know that

[00:16:49] Chuck: Yeah,

[00:16:50] Robbie: so,

[00:16:50] Chuck: used Windows in a pretty long time, so maybe it’s come around

[00:16:55] Robbie: It hasn’t.

[00:16:55] Chuck: No. Okay.

[00:16:56] Robbie: I have to use it occasionally, like to play some games [00:17:00] because not every game works on Mac. Yeah, it’s just gross.

[00:17:04] Robbie: It’s hard to use. Like I think they’re, they’re kind of stuck cuz they have a lot of like older users, probably like, my parents like to use Windows even though like I keep telling them not to because the New Mac stuff is very much like an iPad and they’re on their iPads all the time, so it’s like, it would be very familiar to you, but they just don’t believe me and they’re like, I like my start menu and I want know where the stuff is and my documents and whatever.

[00:17:32] Robbie: Like, okay. So I think there’s like, windows is kind of tied to, if we changed all that and made it actually good, a lot of our user base would go, where’s my documents? Like, where’s the stuff like, um, they, so they can’t do that cuz their user base is very like, enterprise old school. We don’t want it to change.

[00:17:51] Robbie: We just maybe want you to change the look of it occasionally a little and like add some features. So I don’t know. They would have to like release a [00:18:00] new operating system, like an alternate that’s like, this isn’t Windows anymore, this is whatever. And like it’s totally different. You can still use the old windows.

[00:18:09] Robbie: We’re gonna support it forever because you guys like it for some

[00:18:12] Chuck: Well, or at least like the next 20 years, give or take, because Okay, boomer.

[00:18:17] Robbie: Yeah, yeah. But like, I don’t know, it’s, it’s also hard because of the game thing, or it’s like most games will run on Windows because that was kind of what most people had, so it made more sense to build them for that and like they would work better with graphics cards or whatever.

[00:18:34] Robbie: But I think all that’s turning a corner too, so it’s kind of hard to say where things might go. Um, but yeah.

[00:18:44] Chuck: So there you go. There you have it. Um, everything but windows doesn’t suck so bad. I don’t know. I think GitHub actions are like harder than they should be, but,

[00:18:55] Robbie: Yeah. Yeah. But I think all CI is, I haven’t used GitLab [00:19:00] built in stuff. I don’t know if it lets you debug easier.

[00:19:03] Chuck: um, well, so stuff will like, start running on your feature branch for starters, so you can kind of like test how it runs a little easier and have some cycles there. Um, yeah. I think it’s a little, I don’t know, it’s all yaml right. But, uh, yeah, I just feel like developing your configuration files for GET Labs is a little simpler.

[00:19:31] Robbie: Yeah, I think, I think the missing piece is all of them need first to not let you commit. Broken yammel, like if I have the wrong number of spaces, just say no. Be like I have analyzed your get push. Your get push is wrong. Please try again. Like, um, and then, you know, that helps that case. But then also they need a tool for, uh, hypothetical runs of.[00:20:00]

[00:20:00] Robbie: You know, I don’t want to have to commit it all. I just want like an interactive, build my file and I want you to do it. Theoretical actions run that tells me what happens so I can change it more on the fly instead of like, change one line. Commit. Wait for everything to build. This is wrong. Do change one line.

[00:20:17] Robbie: Commit. Like there should be a, um, don’t actually run everything, run like lighter versions somehow and

[00:20:25] Chuck: Like a dry run and not in a container somehow. Yeah,

[00:20:28] Robbie: like you don’t need to install Chrome every time. Like you might in the real one just do like, have like a bare bones chrome API that’s sort of compliant that does some things or whatever.

[00:20:39] Chuck: maybe that’s the SaaS product we can create and finally have, so,

[00:20:44] Robbie: well, I mean, if you’ve got like a year to develop it, I think, uh, that sounds doable. Uh,

[00:20:50] Chuck: free time coming up. Robbie got a lot of free time coming up.

[00:20:55] Robbie: So I don’t know. I mean, I think that would really help because I remember it’s definitely not [00:21:00] GitHub specific cuz when we were using Travis, uh, at a previous company, I think I had like 200 plus commits of like trying to get Travis to work, trying to get Travis to work because I was trying to do something complex where like I would push stuff and I wanted Travis.

[00:21:16] Robbie: Branch and open like a behind the scenes PR or something and like generate some stuff and merge everything together. Like he was doing a lot of complex stuff and I would just have to try one line at a time and see like, did it do it? And if it did, like move to the next line. And it was very tedious.

[00:21:35] Chuck: Yeah, well, uh, uh, good Lab actually has a, um, yammel config analyzer, so it’ll tell you if there are problems in it. So it would catch simple things like syntax errors, obviously wouldn’t be able to tell you other things like, oh, you chose the wrong, uh, node. Version for your Docker container, and so it doesn’t actually [00:22:00] have whatever package installed and so you either need to change which version of node you’re using or install that dependency on the side or things like that.

[00:22:08] Chuck: I wouldn’t really get, so I could see if it would get those things. That’d be pretty cool.

[00:22:14] Robbie: Yeah, I think, I think GitHub has gotten smarter with theirs. I think it does have, like if you’re editing it online in the GitHub gooey, it’ll say like, this is not formatted right or whatever. But I think it still lets you commit it, which I’m like, Why, you know it’s not gonna run, I guess cuz someone probably complains if you do the other way and is like, oh, well I just wanted to save my progress.

[00:22:37] Robbie: I know it’s not gonna run like blah, blah blah. So they, they can’t ever win.

[00:22:42] Chuck: It’s true. You’ll never make all the people happy.

[00:22:45] Robbie: Yeah.

[00:22:45] Chuck: make most of the people unhappy.

[00:22:49] Robbie: Yeah. I don’t know. This is why we don’t have products.

[00:22:53] Chuck: can’t agree on implementation that would actually get used. Fair enough. So it’s the [00:23:00] holiday.

[00:23:02] Robbie: Yeah. Do we want to do holiday trivia or do we wanna make this one extra short and do holiday trivia in the next one?

[00:23:09] Chuck: Well, let’s do a little holiday trivia now. Maybe we can do more

[00:23:11] Robbie: right, we’ll do, we’ll do a teaser if you like these questions. There will be more in the next one. So let me find a couple for you.

[00:23:18] Chuck: Even if you don’t like them, we won’t get your feedback in time, so, sorry.

[00:23:23] Robbie: Oh wow. There’s a lot of stuff about Kwan on here and I don’t know anything about Kwanza,

[00:23:29] Chuck: Okay.

[00:23:30] Robbie: so those will be fun. We’ll save those for next one. Let’s do something more

[00:23:34] Chuck: Yeah, a warmup,

[00:23:36] Robbie: Um, okay. Well, this one’s probably gonna be hard too, but when was the term Xmi invented?

[00:23:48] Chuck: 1973.

[00:23:52] Robbie: Okay. Um,

[00:23:56] Chuck: to shrink down Christmas for the A line of cards that [00:24:00] was non-standard format.

[00:24:01] Robbie: no, I’m guessing there was a, unless you actually know that it sounded kind of legit. Um, I’m gonna guess that it was like they wanted to take Christ out of it, like make it non religiou.

[00:24:16] Chuck: Hmm.

[00:24:16] Robbie: it’s just like a generic thing, but also probably to shorten it. Like you don’t have to type the whole thing or write as much.

[00:24:24] Robbie: Um, so I’m gonna guess, I don’t know. I mean, you’ve been around longer than I have. Has it always been a thing for you?

[00:24:34] Chuck: as far as I can remember,

[00:24:36] Robbie: Hmm.

[00:24:36] Chuck: feels like,

[00:24:38] Robbie: Then I’m gonna say 1925

[00:24:41] Chuck: hm.

[00:24:41] Robbie: when, uh,

[00:24:43] Chuck: Along with the Red Santa Coca-Cola wanted to, for their advertisements to again, take Christ out of it and make it about the big red man.

[00:24:51] Robbie: Yeah. Let’s see. Oh wow. Okay. The mid 15 hundreds, a really, really long time ago,

[00:24:59] Chuck: Okay.

[00:24:59] Robbie: um, [00:25:00] by the Greeks that says Fun fact, Creo and Greek begins with the letter X. So it’s like a shortening of the. Pronunciation or something. His exus, I guess.

[00:25:12] Chuck: Wow. Um, they also must have created the first team of mutant superheroes.

[00:25:21] Robbie: Yes, I

[00:25:22] Chuck: The cri, they used to be known as the Christman, and then they became

[00:25:26] Robbie: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, alright, one more. Let’s see. Um,

[00:25:38] Robbie: Uh oh. That’s a easy one, but we’ll, we’ll do an easy one. What were frosty The snowman’s first words.

[00:25:47] Chuck: happy birthday,

[00:25:49] Robbie: Yep. I’m pretty, I’ll check the answer just to be sure, but I’m pretty sure that’s right.

[00:25:53] Chuck: and I’ve already seen that three times this season,

[00:25:58] Robbie: season.

[00:25:58] Chuck: Yeah, we bought [00:26:00] it. So no, no. We talked about getting to that, but we were gonna try and wrap up some, uh, some other, we had been watching the vow on h bmx, which is about like this kind of crazy cult cultish thing. Women got branded with this guy’s initials. Yeah.

[00:26:18] Robbie: it a real, like a true story?

[00:26:20] Chuck: Yes.

[00:26:22] Robbie: Hmm.

[00:26:22] Chuck: Yeah. Crazy.

[00:26:26] Robbie: All right, well, we’ll make this one a little shorter. We’ll end it here and we can get to more holiday trivia next time. So stay tuned for the next episode tomorrow if you want to find out things like, which is more popular for gift purchasing Black Friday or Cyber Monday.

[00:26:43] Robbie: And what is the highest grossing Christmas movie? Fun things like that.

[00:26:48] Chuck: Die

[00:26:48] Robbie: Uh,

[00:26:49] Chuck: Happy

[00:26:49] Robbie: Yep,

[00:26:50] Chuck: Let’s do you.

[00:26:52] Robbie: All right. We’ll catch you tomorrow. See you.