# Episode 238: Next.js Is Dead, Long Live Next.js! (Presented by Warp)

**Show**: Whiskey Web and Whatnot
**Published**: April 2, 2026
**Duration**: 1:13:32
**Episode Number**: 238

## Hosts

RobbieTheWagner, Adam Argyle

## Description

This week, Robbie and Adam sip Redwood Empire Pipe Dream and dive into the messy reality of AI development, PR reviews, and whether we're all just vibe coding our way into chaos. They debate 200-file PRs versus 10 smaller ones, the rise of YOLO mode versus step-by-step validation, Cloudflare rewriting Next.js in a week, and why T-shaped developers might need to become X-shaped generalists. Along the way, they cover dark factories, OpenClaw memory problems, the death of SaaS, Amazon's AI downtime panic, and why Slack might be the last product standing.

Presented by Warp: https://www.warp.dev/oz [https://www.warp.dev/oz]

In this episode:




CHAPTERS

 * 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions
 * 00:02:34 Whiskey Tasting: Redwood Empire Pipe Dream
 * 00:08:35 Would You Rather: PR Review Edition
 * 00:16:51 Dark Factories & AI-Only Code Review
 * 00:28:15 CloudFlare Rewrites Next.js & The Drama Unfolds
 * 00:37:30 Block Layoffs & The SaaS Apocalypse
 * 00:46:19 Amazon's AI Pendulum: From Yolo to Slow Down
 * 00:55:37 T-Shaped vs X-Shaped Developers
 * 00:51:07 Delaying Gratification: Quality Over Speed
 * 01:04:37 Evil AI Tools: Fake Testimonials & Heretic
 * 01:09:15 Wrap Up & Diablo Nostalgia



Links

 * Redwood Empire Pipe Dream: https://redwoodempirewhiskey.com/ [https://redwoodempirewhiskey.com/]

 * Next.js: https://nextjs.org/ [https://nextjs.org/]

 * Cloudflare: https://www.cloudflare.com/ [https://www.cloudflare.com/]

 * Vercel: https://vercel.com/ [https://vercel.com/]

 * Claude: https://claude.ai/ [https://claude.ai/]

 * Warp: https://www.warp.dev/ [https://www.warp.dev/]

 * OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw [https://github.com/cncf/openclaw]

 * Pi: https://pi.ai/ [https://pi.ai/]

 * Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/ [https://www.cursor.com/]

 * GitHub CLI: https://cli.github.com/ [https://cli.github.com/]

 * Graphite: https://graphite.dev/ [https://graphite.dev/]

 * Git Butler: https://gitbutler.com/ [https://gitbutler.com/]

 * Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/ [https://www.shopify.com/]

 * Ember Data: https://github.com/emberjs/data [https://github.com/emberjs/data]

 * CodeRabbit: https://coderabbit.ai/ [https://coderabbit.ai/]

 * Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/ [https://www.anthropic.com/]

 * Slack: https://slack.com/ [https://slack.com/]

 * Launch Darkly: https://launchdarkly.com/ [https://launchdarkly.com/]

 * IBM: https://www.ibm.com/ [https://www.ibm.com/]

 * Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/ [https://www.amazon.com/]

 * Block: https://block.xyz/ [https://block.xyz/]

 * Shepherd: https://shepherdjs.dev/ [https://shepherdjs.dev/]

 * Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/ [https://www.rust-lang.org/]

 * Post Bridge: https://postbridge.io/ [https://postbridge.io/]

 * Arcads.ai: https://arcads.ai/ [https://arcads.ai/]

 * Effect.oh: https://effect.oh/ [https://effect.oh/]

 * Heretic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heretic_(video_game) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heretic_(video_game)]

 * Diablo: https://diablo.blizzard.com/ [https://diablo.blizzard.com/]

 * Hexen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexen [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexen]

 * Cap: https://cap.so/ [https://cap.so/]

 * Nerdy.dev: https://nerdy.dev/ [https://nerdy.dev/]

Connect with the hosts

 * Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner [https://x.com/RobbieWagner]

 * Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter [https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter]

 * Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink [https://x.com/argyleink]

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## Audio

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