# Episode 245: From COBOL to Claude: Live Coding, AI Agents, and the Death of Typing w/ Typecraft **Show**: Whiskey Web and Whatnot **Published**: May 31, 2026 **Duration**: 1:13:18 **Episode Number**: 245 ## Hosts RobbieTheWagner, Adam Argyle ## Description This week, Robbie and Adam are live from React Miami at the Clerk booth, sipping Cutwater cocktails and talking hot takes with Typecraft. They dig into whether React is a framework or library, server components, hooks versus signals versus proxies, HTML as a programming language, git rebase versus merge, semicolons, package managers, and why Python might be the least friendly language out there. Along the way, they debate AI in interviews, whether we've reached AGI, 3D printing chocolate, homeschooling with AI agents, the value of bullying, voice dictation workflows, whether you should bother learning Vim anymore, AI flow state versus brain fry, why COBOL won't die, and the probability hack for getting creative outputs from LLMs. In this episode: CHAPTERS * 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions * 00:02:52 Hot Takes: React Framework vs Library & Server Components * 00:05:26 Hooks, Signals, Proxies & The Future of Reactivity * 00:08:12 Is HTML a Programming Language? The Great Debate * 00:11:51 Git Rebase vs Merge: The Honest Approach * 00:13:54 Semicolons, Package Managers & Programming Language Preferences * 00:25:01 AI in Interviews & The New Developer Workflow * 00:29:59 Have We Reached AGI? The Bar is Lower Than You Think * 00:31:35 3D Printing, Homeschooling & The Value of Bullying * 00:49:33 AI Flow State: Voice Dictation, Remote Control & Long-Running Agents * 00:46:24 Should You Learn Vim in the Age of AI? * 00:51:01 AI Intensifies Work: Productivity Paradox & Brain Fry * 01:03:33 COBOL, Mainframes & Why Legacy Tech Won't Die * 01:09:40 The Probability Hack: Getting Creative AI Outputs * 01:12:27 Wrap Up & Where to Find Everyone Links * Cutwater Spirits: https://cutwaterspirits.com/ [https://cutwaterspirits.com/] * Typecraft: https://typecraft.dev/ [https://typecraft.dev/] * React: https://react.dev/ [https://react.dev/] * Next.js: https://nextjs.org/ [https://nextjs.org/] * React Server Components: https://react.dev/ [https://react.dev/] * Remix: https://remix.run/ [https://remix.run/] * GEA: https://geajs.com/ [https://geajs.com/] * Ember: https://emberjs.com/ [https://emberjs.com/] * Svelte: https://svelte.dev/ [https://svelte.dev/] * Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/ [https://tailwindcss.com/] * Claude: https://claude.ai/ [https://claude.ai/] * OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/ [https://opencode.ai/] * Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/ [https://www.cursor.com/] * Warp: https://www.warp.dev/ [https://www.warp.dev/] * Vim: https://www.vim.org/ [https://www.vim.org/] * NeoVim: https://neovim.io/ [https://neovim.io/] * Python: https://www.python.org/ [https://www.python.org/] * Ruby: https://www.ruby-lang.org/ [https://www.ruby-lang.org/] * Dart: https://dart.dev/ [https://dart.dev/] * Java: https://www.java.com/ [https://www.java.com/] * COBOL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL] * Yarn: https://yarnpkg.com/ [https://yarnpkg.com/] * NPM: https://www.npmjs.com/ [https://www.npmjs.com/] * PNPM: https://pnpm.io/ [https://pnpm.io/] * IBM: https://www.ibm.com/ [https://www.ibm.com/] * Minecraft: https://www.minecraft.net/ [https://www.minecraft.net/] * Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/ [https://www.anthropic.com/] * OpenAI: https://openai.com/ [https://openai.com/] * Clerk: https://clerk.com/ [https://clerk.com/] * React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/ [https://www.reactmiami.com/] * Rent a Human: https://rentahuman.ai/ [https://rentahuman.ai/] * Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/ [https://www.shopify.com/] Connect with Chris * Website: https://typecraft.dev/ [https://typecraft.dev/] * X / Twitter: https://x.com/typecraft_dev [https://x.com/typecraft_dev] Connect with the hosts * Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner [https://x.com/RobbieWagner] * Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink [https://x.com/argyleink] Subscribe and stay in touch * Website: https://whiskey.fm [https://whiskey.fm/] * Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603] * Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf [https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf] * Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 [https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603] * YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot [https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot] Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund [https://whiskey.fund/]. ## Audio [Download or listen to episode](https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/01KSTQKHKHBXHMD8BSM87Y9F5T.mp3) ## Transcript Transcript not available for this episode.